The Hobbit: 3 not 2…Cool

So, by now we’ve all heard that the rumors are true. Peter Jackson confirmed via Facebook that The Hobbit is now going to be three movies instead of two. I for one am excited by this news. The expected complaints have already been flung all around the web and people are certainly entitled to their opinions. The “more money to be made” issue is certainly a huge factor for anyone who stands to benefit from the sale of movie tickets, DVDs and Blu-rays–heck, even movie posters. However, there are a couple of reasons that I think this is a good thing.

Firstly, if you are the kind of person who reads books before going to see a movie, you are also probably the kind of person who knows that the movies never–or to be fair, rarely– live up to the books. Given the length of Peter Jackson’s previous movies, I’m guessing that this gives him somewhere around three more hours to flesh out the story. Yes, even a book that is only 3oo some odd pages could benefit from the extra time.

Then there is the fact that Tolkien wrote The Hobbit before The Lord of the Rings series. Where The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers and Return of the King are incredibly detail oriented, The Hobbit is a much simpler story. He did write it for his children after all. But, then he moved on to LOTRs, developing his fictional world and its history even more. That is where the appendices come in. We’ve already been told that PJ and the writers were incorporating the appendices into the movies. This takes that 300 some odd pages of The Hobbit and adds hundreds more pages of source material.

A third reason I’m hopeful about this development, is that I’m hoping that the addition of this third movie will provide a nice segue into the LOTRs trilogy. After all, there were something like 50-60 years between the stories. This kind of makes me think of what Richard Armitage said at the Dwarf press conference when he said, “Would you like to be a little more specific? I’ve got 40 years to talk about.” Fifty to 60 years is a long time, and a lot took place.  Since I’m incapable of summarizing this well, I’m going to quote from a great website I came across:

The years between Bilbo’s return from Erebor and the events described in The Lord of the Rings were years of cautious but open expansion by Sauron and slow but continual decay on the part of his opponents. Just ten years after Thorin’s quest, the Black Lord declared himself openly and set out to rebuild his great fortress of Barad-dûr. He also sent his agents, the Nazgûl, to reoccupy his former stronghold, Dol Guldur in Mirkwood, from which he had been driven the year of Bilbo’s adventures.

At the same time, cracks were beginning to show in the ranks of Sauron’s foes. The White Council, an organization of the Eldar (elven lords) and the Istari (wizards), had been watching for the reappearance of the Great Enemy for years. The Council included both Gandalf and Elrond, but its leader was the most powerful of the wizards, Saruman the White. Saruman had made the study of the Rings of Power his specialty, and after many years he came to desire possession of the One Ring himself. He made no sign of this to his fellow council members, but quietly watched for the discovery of the lost Ring. In 2953, the White Council met for the last time. Here Saruman reported that the Ring had been washed to sea, lost forever. Meanwhile he fortified his dwelling place at Isengard and accelerated his own search for the Ring.

Gandalf was next in power to Saruman, so he attracted the traitor’s jealousy and fear. All his movements were watched by Saruman’s spies. In the years that followed, Gandalf kept a lively interest in hobbits in general and Bilbo in particular, for he had always doubted Bilbo’s tale of winning his ring as a prize. Thus Saruman’s attention was also attracted to the Shire.

By now Saruman had been overcome by his own lust for the Ring. Daring to look into one of the Seeing Stones of Gondor (the palantíri), he was ensnared by the more powerful will of Sauron, who also possessed one of the stones. It was in this way that the Dark Lord probably first heard of the Shire. Gandalf, in turn, began to fear for the safety of the Shire, and so he persuaded the Rangers of Arnor, descendants of the kings, to keep watch over the borders. The chief of these Rangers, Aragorn, was the heir to the thrones of both Gondor and Arnor, and had become a close friend of Gandalf.

That, in and of itself, is enough story to make an entire movie! Don’t mistake me, I don’t think PJ and company are going to dedicate and entire film to the between years. But surely part of it. Again, more reason to think a third film isn’t a bad idea or that there is a lack of story to tell.

Anyway, these are just my thoughts. I’m just a simple fan, not an expert. But in my book, if they want to go with three movies instead of two…right on!

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18 thoughts on “The Hobbit: 3 not 2…Cool

  1. Snicker's Mom

    Sorry darling, but this is one of those few instances where I whole heartedly, with every fiber of my being disagree. I was relieved when I found out The Hobbit was to be two movies. Waiting three years for the LOTR trilogy almost killed me. I don’t know what this is going to do to me. You know, someone as old as I am may not live to see all three.

    • Just for clarity: are you disagreeing with me about there being plenty of material for three films? Or are you disagreeing because you are too impatient to wait? 🙂 Either way is fine, just curious.

      Oh, and for the record, I know how old you are, and I have every confidence that you’ll still be alive and kickin’ for decades after these movies have come out! 😉

      • Snicker's Mom

        I’m disagreeing because I’m impatient and don’t want to wait that long. 😉

    • Teuchter

      My thoughts exactly, Snicker’s Mom! When it was first announced in 2010 that the first part wouldn’t be released until 2012 I wondered if I’d live to see it, mainly because of my age, not that I am ill or anything, but also because you never know what life will throw at you! Each year they add to that makes me wonder even more. I know that in the big picture of things there are more important things in the world but I SO want to be around to see all three.

      I also have a question. If the third film is made up of stuff that happened AFTER Thorin’s quest does that mean that Richard won’t appear in it? It will be sad if that is the case when he is such a central character.

      • kathryngaul

        Teuchter….young Thorin is mentioned in the Appendices so that maybe why we saw a pic of young Thorin?

      • Teucher, I wish you a long, long life! You have to be around to see all of the movies at the very least. 🙂

        There is now the leaked information about possible titles for the movies. If the last movie is really going to be called The Battle of Five Armies, there should be plenty of Thorin!

  2. kathryngaul

    I agree with both of you 😀 I want 43 movies but I’m finding it difficult enough waiting for 2!

    I’ve been listening to the audiobooks of LOTR which are on YouTube. Just at the end of “Return of the King”, there’s a bit from the appendices but it runs out just where we get to Thorin and Balin being outdoors when Smaug attacks the Lonely Mt and takes over their cave!!!! Darn, darn, darn. I’ve borrowed my son’s books to read the Appendices to satisfy my curiosity.

    I purchased the audiobook of “The Hobbit” from and I’ve listened to it 8 times – absolutely love it! I’m also thinking of purchasing “The Silmarillion” even though Matthew owns the book!

    BTW Snicker’s Mom, betcha I’m older than you – Matthew is 5 months older than Richard! I lust after a man young enough to be my son 😉

    • Teuchter

      Thanks Kathryn!! I’d love to think he would be in all three! Now I am encouraged!! 🙂

      BTW – I betcha I’m older than both of you!! 😀 My YOUNGEST daughter is a year older than Richard so he’s certainly young enough to be my son too!! Oh that sounds so awful when I think about it!! 😦 I’ve no logical explanation for it either! Maybe it’s because when I think about him I don’t feel anything close to the age I really am. Does that make any sense at all? Maybe one of you can explain it better than I!! 😉 Anyway I’ve made up my mind to accept this is how it is and just enjoy every minute of it! 😀

      • kathryngaul

        Yep, I’m enjoying every minute of all the fun and “friendship”, etc., of the blogs – and I’m so glad I’ve found other mature ladies who lust after Richard! 😉

        But, in all seriousness, I think I love his brain and his heart most of all.

        And we’re also picking up odd bits of information on other things, too. I’ve learned about some great books and television shows, as well as movies, from these blogs and, one day, I’m going to attempt to screencap from my DVDs and maybe even make a fanvid or 2! I might also have a shot at writing again.

        But don’t hold your breath – I’m the world’s greatest procrastinator 😀

    • I’ve never listened to LOTRs audiobooks. I should get my hands on some! By the way, Kathryn and Teucher, you both have Snicker’s Mom beat (and me too). We are a bit younger than the majority of RA’s fans.

      • Teuchter

        Someone once referred to his more “mature” admirers as “Gisborne Grannies”! I’ll have you know that although I’m old enough to be his Mom (still have a hard time admitting that) I most certainly am nothing CLOSE to being his Granny!! 🙂 I still think it’s wonderful to know that he has admirers from such a wide range of ages! His appeal knows no bounds it seems! 😉

  3. kathryngaul

    that was swupposed to read “3 movies”! LOL

  4. Teuchter

    There is nothing to beat an intelligent man who also seems to have a heart of gold, is there? The “receptacle” that holds them is also worth a second look too! Sorry, I was trying to be serious too but there is just so much to love! *hangs head*

    But to be really serious, if it was ONLY the looks without the brain or the heart, I think many of us would have lost interest by this time. He is, in all truth, the complete package and consequently worthy of the adoration I feel.

  5. What they’ve actually done is we’ll believe every single Hobbit related rumour from now on. Just a week ago it seemed like silly gossip, and here we are with confirmed info.
    I’ve learned to trust Peter Jackson, and if says there’s enough material for 3 kick*ss films, I believe him. That means more Thorin, more Kili, more beautiful NZ landscape.
    It will also mean waiting a year longer to buy the DVD boxset of all 3 movies, but it’s a small price to pay.
    BTW, does that mean RA is going back to NZ to shoot more, or are they using the footage that’s already shot?

    • Jane

      The have announced that the third film will be shown in summer 2012, so we only have to wait another two years for that. After all we are already waiting since October 2010. I believe some extra filming in 2013 was always planned, they may extend that plus use marital they have already filmed. I saw two months next year mentioned, but I have no idea if it is true.

      • Just a little correction. The third movie will be released in the summer of 2014. So, about 6 months extra wait time, not another full year.

    • I don’t know if I’ll believe every rumor, but it certainly makes you more likely to at least consider them! In truth, I still have some lingering issues with Sir Peter over the LOTRs movies. There were some changes to the story and omissions that were really frustrating for me. I’m hoping with the extra film, PJ will tell the whole story.

      I imagine that they have already done most of the shooting and it will mostly just be reshoots. Although, I know I saw an interview from Comic Con where RA said they still had a big battle scene to shoot and that they had more training to do before hand. Actually, as I’m typing this I’m thinking about the name that has come out as a possibility for the 3rd movie. If it is really going to be called The Battle of Five Armies, maybe that is the battle they still have to film, which could mean they still have a lot of filming left to do.

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